4 January 2012

Old bones.

I've been asked (told) to run a session at a conference again.

I've got to talk about sort of cold cases - basically, when a body is found that has clearly been there a long time. So, not cold cases in that they've been investigated, then shelved. Brand new case, old old bones. Or not so old. Anyway, it's not a topic I mind - far better than last year's! And I shouldn't complain, it is nice that people think highly enough of me to 'volunteer' me for such things.

Does mean two or three days away, though, which I'm less happy about. Speaking of, Danger, I'm off tomorrow, working Fri and Sat, off Sun to take Mycroft back to school (if he wants, given what happened as a result of us both being there last time.) so the three of us could do somethiing tomorrow, or if you want a break, Mycroft and I can do something together - go out on the bike or something?

I was sure I had other things to say...

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REReader said...

Three days usn't too horrible, unless...is it over a weekend? Because if so, blech.

Also, FOUR HOURS (or three and a half)? That's like four college classes in a row--marathon lecturing! Is it straight talking or can you break it up with Q&A?

It does sound like an interesting subject, though, and both unusual and relevant enough that you'll have an attentive audience.

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

Oh, no, bloody hell I couldn't talk for that long - everyone would be asleep! No, there's me talking, discussion, group work, more discussion, that sort of thing. It's not just a big long lecture!

REReader said...

Whew.

I had to give three lectures back-to-back once (academic job interview) and it was Not Fun. And that was three separate lectures to three separate classes. Sounds like you're talking about a workshop, which is a lot easier to run (although it requires a lot more prep work).

REReader said...

(I should have said, a lot easier to run IF you know your subject, which you obviously do.)

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

We just call it a session. I don't know, not my area. But yeah, I don't mind doing it. No idea what group stuff I'll do yet though.

mazarin221b said...

Do you have to actually write that session, or just moderate/run it? And when do you have to go?

I'm asked to do presentations and such fairly regularly, sometimes I have to write it, sometimes not, but I still cringe a little inside every time someone walks up to me and says "Hey, there's this conference..."

REReader said...

I don't know enough about the subject to volunteer any specific ideas, but is there something hands on you could have them do?

John H. D. Watson said...

Definitely a better topic than last time. Where is it?

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

Write it too, Maz!

RR - not sure yet.

Danger - Manchester, next month. Going to come and hold my hand? (literally, if we cruise Canal St like a pair of old queens.) You're welcome, if we can work it out, and if you don't mind entertaining yourself during the days.

John H. D. Watson said...

I might. Could be fun.

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

I'm sure fun could be had, in amongst seminars on understanding autopsies and working with flo. Much more fun if you're there, obviously.

John H. D. Watson said...

Could I listen to your talk, or is it police only?

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

I'm sure you could sneak in.

It would make me about a million times more nervous though. I think.

Been to Manchester before? And any views on what to do tomorrow?

John H. D. Watson said...

It would make me about a million times more nervous though. I think.

You say that as if it's not just a bonus... Ha. No, I won't if it would really make you nervous. And I promise not to ask difficult questions.

Never been to Manchester, no. Have you?

Tomorrow... hm. You could take Mycroft out in the morning, and we could all do something together in the afternoon?

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

I have indeed. I spent quite a few hedonistic weekends there. Back when fashion was bad and I had no shame.

Sounds like a good plan for tomorrow.

REReader said...

Back when fashion was bad and I had no shame.

...No, too easy. :D

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

Should probably add that if fashion was bad, my dancing was worse :)

Everyone's suspiciously quiet today. Hope you're not all out parking golf buggies on planes...

REReader said...

:D (Nope, still too easy...)


I dunno about anyone else but I'm A) FREEZING (it's 25F here--that's -4C--and our heat's been cutting in and out; and B) nervously anticipating the joys of prepping this evening for a colonoscopy tomorrow. (That was TMI, wasn't it? Sorry...)

John H. D. Watson said...

Or turfing over offices...

Small Hobbit said...

That was DW's speciality. I suspect others are just suffering from the shock of going back to work after the break.

Question - how old does a body have to be before you decide its death is of purely historic significance rather than a cold case?

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

RR - I admit, i don't actually know what is 'too easy' I'm just sort of nodding and going along with it anyway.

Danger, who would do such a thing? Hope you and the boys aren't up to no good.

REReader said...

Ha!

(*tiny letters* Well, when you insult yourself but in the past, one could always take a cheap shot at the use of past tense, however unmerited the shot may be. *end tiny letters*)


Actually, I'm thinking Mycroft is probably looking forward to some alone time with you and with you and John together.

Have you put aside your voyages into philosophy for now, Mycroft, or are you just letting the whole thing simmer for a while?

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

For me, SH, it's about the possibility of a conviction. So if we found remains from 60 years ago, whilst we would endeavour to identify them, unless there was some good forensic evidence, there would be little point in running a major investigation, as the murderer would almost certainly be about 80, if not dead. But it depends on lots of things.

Any violent death we would try to identify the victim and inform the family so they could arrange for a proper burial/cremation etc. But obviously a body dated back too far is either treated appropriately by the local council, or the historians and scientists. Each case is different.

Piplover said...

Slightly relevant to the discussion...

About 15 years ago, there were some bones found in the riverbed near my town. They were originally dated to be about 200 years old, and were sent to the local coroner, who was also an anthropologist. He realized the bones were older than expected, and sent samples in for testing.

It turned out the bones were some of the oldest recorded on the continent, and their very existence pretty much rewrites history.

There was a huge legal battle that lasted about 10 years, with scientists suing for the right to study the remains, and the Native Americans trying to stop them. In the end, the scientists won.

Anyway, I thought it was interesting that bones originally thought to be a pioneer or Native American actually changed history as we know it.

John H. D. Watson said...

Hope you and the boys aren't up to no good.

Nor turf or golf carts were involved in this afternoon's entertainment.

REReader said...

Nor turf or golf carts were involved in this afternoon's entertainment.

That leaves all sorts of interesting options open, doesn't it?

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

I've never had a body that old, Piplover. Few plague victims, over the years.

I can assure you all the flat is not on the top of the BT tower or anything...yet.

REReader said...

I'd say what a relief, but for that "yet"... :D

Desert Wanderer said...

Nice pic. What's that from?

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

RR - never discount any possibilities around here.

DW - John took it. I picked it because I'm almost smiling, which is unusual. Probably at the fact he wanted a pic of me.

Anon Without A Name said...

I would attempt to comment intelligently on the whole presentation/conference thing, but I'm only just in from work and my brain is barely functioning.

Functioning just enough for me to notice the new pic. And... blimey. I mean, well... blimey.

REReader said...

never discount any possibilities around here.

I've been learning that... :D


And yeah--excellent photo!

John H. D. Watson said...

I have some even better ones of him that Nicky gave me, speaking of being up to no good.

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

You're all far too kind. It's from the jail hotel we went to, Danger took it before we went out for the night, because...well, I've no idea. But the santa hat had to go, and I just needed a pic where I wasn't looking sad, as you all seem to think that's all I do in photos.

Danger, I am certain that anything Nicky gave you is highly suspect and I should take it off you and have it checked for authenticity.

John H. D. Watson said...

Oh no, I am not that gullible, Detective Inspector. I strongly feel these photos should be a surprise.

Desert Wanderer said...

"Danger, I am certain that anything Nicky gave you is highly suspect and I should take it off you"

You forgot your "so to speak"

Captcha says "wookieness". I don't even want to know...

REReader said...

I strongly feel these photos should be a surprise.

YES!

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

I strongly feel that if you strongly feel that then I may have to confiscate your laptop as...evidence. And your phone. And my laptop. And...well, everything. Or just get a restraining order telling you you can't access the internet.

Bronwyn said...

Greetings and felicitations gentlemen!

I've been at work all day getting ready for the advent of students tomorrow (God love us all). I have three bodies to prep, a handful of exams to finish, grades to record and laundry to do. Though that last one is mainly personal. I also have to get project prep done and write a new podcast for approval before recording. And I haven't picked a topic. Gargh!

I'm so glad to be back! <-- Not sarcasm. Maybe later in the term.

Toodles!
Bronwyn

Bronwyn said...

No! We need John on the internet!
Bronwyn

REReader said...

No! We need John on the internet!

This!

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

He should have thought of that before threatening an officer of the law.

See, he's let me down, he's let you down...but most of all, he's let himself down.

REReader said...

You've got that upside down--not showing us those photos would be letting us down, and since showing us the photos means not showing you the photos, showing you the photos would be letting us down.

Obvious!

(Besides, it's not as though Nicky can't just post the pix herself....)

John H. D. Watson said...

DW - sorry to disappoint, but he's not dressed as a wookie in any of them.

And I feel pretty safe about my internet access considering he still can't put music on his iPod without help.

Bronwyn said...

*lip trembles* Can't we appeal on his behalf? Throw ourselves on the mercy of the court? Cry copiously at you?

Besides, I could argue that one person's crime is another's act of charity. After all, Nicky would be heartbroken (not to mention all of us mercy-throwers) should we never get to see them. You are so freaking cute!

*wibbles*
Bronwyn

John H. D. Watson said...

Bronwyn - I have three bodies to prep

This sounds like a podcast all on its own...

Bronwyn said...

He still can't put music on his iPod without help.

*snickers*
Bronwyn

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

but he's not dressed as a wookie in any of them.

Oh, it's different pictures?

And I feel pretty safe about my internet access considering he still can't put music on his iPod without help.

Mycroft! Tomorrow, when we're out on the bike, I've got a business proposal for you...

Bronwyn, no amount of crying etc. works on me, I'm afraid. And...I don't even have a response to being called 'freaking cute'...I just...

Bronwyn said...

I suppose it could be a podcast, John, but since it's also a major project for my students (how did this person die, when, age/race/gender, blood type, given these factors is it this missing person), the next podcast would have to be "How to Shoot Yourself in the Foot When Lesson-Planning".
*laughs*
Bronwyn

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

Bronwyn, you could do my talk for me!

Bronwyn said...

No amount of crying etc. works on me.

John! I have a business proposal for you!

And I'm very very sorry, Greg, but as someone who has already SEEN the pictures, you are indeed, freaking cute. And the proper response is to blush madly and say thank you.

So adorable, you.
Bronwyn

John H. D. Watson said...

There you are then, get your students to do the podcast for you as part of their assignment!

Bronwyn said...

Bronwyn, you could do my talk for me!

*shrugs* Okay. Shall I bring my bodies and activity forms? And will NSY pay for my plane ticket?
Bronwyn

Bronwyn said...

*eyes wide* Ooer! That's brilliant, John! I can make them do it for me! AWESOME!
Bronwyn

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

Oh God.

Hang on, let me gather up any scraps of dignity and be on my way...

Nicky, you're never ever staying with me ever again.

REReader said...

*giggling madly*

John H. D. Watson said...

You look amazing. I was truly amazed when I saw them.

Anon Without A Name said...

Dear heavens, Lestrade. On this blog and John's you've discussed your sexual preferences, been adorably drunk, daftly drugged up, talked about having your bum drawn on, discussed your proposed nipple piercings, cheerfully 'fessed up to having worn bumless chaps and admitted that anything hotter than a korma is too much for you. All without batting an eye. But a couple of cute photos of you looking young (and OK, just a tiny bit daft) and *that's* what embarrasses you? 0_o

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

truly amazed...that I can believe. Probably not for the reasons you're claiming though ;)

At least tell me I'm clothed in all of them. I mean, fully clothed.

Bronwyn said...

*sheepishly gathers up dignity bits and hands them over* I'd say sorry for taking the piss, but you know, I'm not really. *looks at dignity bits* Though, I am a bit sorry about your dignity. I could pay for the dry cleaning?
Bronwyn

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

Nameless - I think I'm mainly shocked at how young I look. I can't quite believe I was allowed out. Let alone...well. But you're right. I'm sure everyone here has err...moments of questionable fashion/taste documented by lovely family members.

John H. D. Watson said...

The dressing gown is as unclothed as you get in any of them, promise.

And you do look very young, and quite sweet really.

Bronwyn said...

Wait, *looks back up* is the dignity-gathering because I accidentally made it sound like I've seen whatever photos John is currently hoarding? Because, those I haven't. Just the ones that have already made it online.

I suppose I could try googling your name and see if any interesting newspaper stories pop up. But I suspect John's would be better any road.
Bronwyn

Bronwyn said...

*wide gleeful eyes* Dressing gown?
Bronwyn

Ro said...

Love the new profile pic, Lestrade. Very nice. I'm not sure why you wouldn't want to use the first pic in John's new post as your profile pic though ... :D

RR - good luck with your colonoscopy (god, is that the right amount of Os in there???) Too early in the morning. (as in, it's pre-10am.)

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

Okay...and am I wearing...err...how can I put this?

Am I wearing men's clothing in all of them, because there was a fancy dress party and...I'm going to stop right there.

Anonymous said...

Wait, dressing gown ? There has to be a story behind this...

(Also, Nicky didn't actually stay with you on her last visit. She was at a hotel.) *is teasing*

Sorry for the lack of response from here. I started a new job on Monday (working from home), and may be coming down with a cold. Either way, I'm struggling to design a logo...and I'm not a visual artist. *desk*

~A from NW

Bronwyn said...

*eyes Greg fishily* And you took the piss about the corset converstaion of ages back? *cackles madly*
Bronwyn

Anonymous said...

There was a fancy dress party and...I'm going to stop right there.

Oh Greg, don't you know you should never say that to your readers? =)

I'm taking it that the dress part was a bit more literal than usual?

*is quietly amused*
~A from NW

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

Bronwyn, did I? I don't remember.

Why are you all so excited about my dressing gown??

REReader said...

Thanks, Ro--and yes. Just starting the horrid part about now...

Anonymous said...

As Bronwyn says, "you're freaking cute." I'll let someone else explain the rest...

=)

~A from NW

Bronwyn said...

You did, but it's of no import.

I think our interest in the dressing gown falls under the "You're freaking cute" clause. Thus we'd like to see you in your cuteness. John probably could have said "the one of you in the blue t-shirt and sweat pants" and gotten a very similar reaction.

*winks*
Bronwyn

Anon Without A Name said...

Oh, now I definitely want to see the rest of those photos :-)

And the dressing gown... it's just so... yeah :-p

Good luck ReRe.

John H. D. Watson said...

Good luck, RR.

And L - they are all men's clothes, but now I know what to ask Nicky for next, don't I?

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

And you're telling me you've never worn a miniskirt?

John H. D. Watson said...

...All right, probably men's clothes. There's a shirt that could go either way.

John H. D. Watson said...

And I have not worn a miniskirt!

REReader said...

Thank you, John.

You're both pretty darn cute. :)

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

people are so mean about my shirts.

..you haven't?

Yeah, hope it goes...errr...smoothly?, RR.

Bronwyn said...

A miniskirt would be darling with your Sparkles jacket, John.

Seriously, think about it.
Bronwyn

John H. D. Watson said...

..you haven't?

Do you have photographic evidence that would lead you to believe otherwise?

REReader said...

Haha, L.

(Gah! That gunk tastes absolutely disgusting...)


Does he have Harry's number, John?

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

No, I just thought, being a medical student and then a soldier you'd have found yourself in women's clothing really quite often.

A miniskirt would be darling with your Sparkles jacket, John.

Seriously, think about it.


Just make sure you can hitch it up when you're on the back of the bike.

Rider said...

RR, all I can say is I hope you are using a laptop.

because "that gunk" means you won't be sitting anywhere but the porcelain throne for some time.

John H. D. Watson said...

You didn't say women's clothes though, you said a miniskirt.

...Although I feel 'really quite often' is a wild exaggeration.

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

well, yes. Obvious clothing of choice for a bloke, no?

Hah. Don't worry, I'm really not into all that. I like you in jeans and cuddly jumpers. Or nothing at all...

REReader said...

Rider--iPod Touch. Won't say where I am at any given time, I'll let you guess...

John H. D. Watson said...

...Depends on the effect you're gong for.

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

There's not a lot about you I wouldn't gong for.

John H. D. Watson said...

Excellent.

Bronwyn said...

On a totally different and yet still clothing related topic.

Shirt for Greg!
https://www.backstreet-merch.com/images/products/bands/clothing/marml/bsi_marm03.gif

And matching (sort of) shirt for John!
http://www.backstreet-merch.com/images/products/bands/clothing/marmh/bsi_marmh01.gif

Going home now!
Bronwyn

REReader said...

Ha, perfect, Bronwyn!

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

Lovely to wake up to the BBC telling me the Met's MITs are being cut back. Thanks!

REReader said...

MITs?

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

Murder investigation teams. As in, the team I am part of.

Ro said...

WTF? ... I can't believe that it's because there's less need in this day and age ... what is there reasoning?

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

Well, there have been fewer murders in recent years - which is obviously brilliant - but we don't actually just work on murders, as you lot know.

It's because of massive budget cuts, mainly. So, assuming my team isn't one to be redeployed, there'll be more work for fewer people.

Still, going to stick to my resolution as much as possible...

Desert Wanderer said...

Aren't budget cuts fun? I got told yesterday a department of mine lost all its funding. It's a purely tactical/deployable unit, so I feel your pain.

Hope things turn out well for you and your team.

REReader said...

Well, that's all kinds of Not Good.

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

I'm not too worried about me, but I am worried my team will b e cut in numbers.

Ouch, DW. I just hope they don't try to move me...which I think is unlikely. But you never know. Or a few other key team members I wouldn't want to lose.

Sherlock said...

Lestrade HAS to keep doing murders or he couldn't tell me about them.

John H. D. Watson said...

I'm sure he will. He's very good at it, and it wouldn't make sense to have him do something else.

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

Can we replace the word 'doing' with 'investigating' though, for any casual reader who stumbles upon this blog!

I very much doubt they'd move me, Sherlock, really. Unless I got a promotion or something, which is very unlikely.

Piplover said...

"Can we replace the word 'doing' with 'investigating' though, for any casual reader who stumbles upon this blog!"

ROFLMAO :-p

Small Hobbit said...

My final verse - the twelfth day is for both Danger and Lestallion for letting me join in their blogs:

On the twelfth day of Christmas my true love gave to me:
Twelve thanks for ev'rything
Eleven lots of gold bling
Ten groans for working
Nine poohs for cleaning
Eight res-o-lu-tions
Seven oohs and aahs-ing
Six strings a-strumming
Five sa-ad smiles
Four mugs of coffee
Three cups of decaff
Two body piercings
And a degu in a Christmas tree

Cheers, guys.

Kholly said...

SH you're brilliant!

REReader said...

Keeping my fingers crossed that your team survives as close to intact as is possible, L.

Ha, SH! Awesome!

John H. D. Watson said...

SH - perfect!

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

That's brilliant, SH. Thank you.

Desert Wanderer said...

Fantastic, SH! Really well done.

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

Sometimes, even after this long in the job, I can' btelieve what people will do to one another. I really can't.

Desert Wanderer said...

Uh oh. Doesn't sound promising for your day being quiet. :(

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

Oh, it's not so bad, DW - court, not a new one. But... I don't know how the juries cope, really. Dragged in here, some of them probably never even seen a body before, and getting a case like this. It'll live with them for the rest of their lives.

REReader said...

I understand that the formalities and rituals of court helps separate people from it somewhat, or so I've read. Sounds like it hits you more in court than when you're working on a case, though...you okay?

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

Maybe, yeah. And they do get help.

It wasn't really my case. i was on call when it was reported, so I went to the initial scene, did all that, then someone else took over. So some of it's new to me. Not the violence, though, that was obvious from the start. Just the...circumstances.

I haven't seen many murders more violent or sadistic than this one. But yeah, I'm okay, thanks.

John H. D. Watson said...

Do you want to get lunch? Or...anything else I could do that might help?

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

Thanks, but I could be called any time. I'm okay, honestly. Looking forward to coming home tonight. Should be at a decent hour, too.

John H. D. Watson said...

I know you're okay, just wish you could be more okay. Also looking forward to you coming home.

Is the coffee there still significantly worse than at NSY?

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

Absolutely. I imagine coffee in prison is better than this stuff. I think it's some sort of punishment for us, for daring to arrest people and cause costly trials.

John H. D. Watson said...

And this one wasn't even (mostly) your fault. Unfair, really.

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

Well, I was the arresting officer, so a bit my fault. Still unfair though. I Bry the judges get nice stuff.

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

I *bet*.

Thanks, autocorrect. Can rely on you to make a shit day worse.

REReader said...

Clearly, many cuddles are called for this evening.

Desert Wanderer said...

*winces* ouch, Lestrade. Not a good day. Good thing you have someone who enjoys cuddling you in hoodies at home. And Doctor Danger, too.

Mycoft said...

If you let me see your mobile when you get home, I can fix at least that autocorrect error.

REReader said...

I think Lestrade will be most grateful for that, Mycroft.

John H. D. Watson said...

Sorry, love. Your phone has a poor sense of timing.

Anything you want for dinner tonight?

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

Sorry, got called.

Thanks Mycroft, I'd appreciate that.

Whatever you want, John. I just need to wait here, want to speak to the family . Be home ASAP

REReader said...

DEFINITELY a day for extra cuddles. You up for the job, Sherlock?

And please give Lestrade a hug from me, John. Talking to the family is above and beyond.

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

Thanks all of you.

I'm a very lucky bloke though, to get to go home to three hugs from humans and four from paws - large and small.

John H. D. Watson said...

How's the family doing?

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

Christ... I don't know, honestly. Given one of them's been brutally murdered, one's in the dock, two are key witnesses and the others are totally distraught... I think their world's ended, really, and they're completely lost. It's a situation impossible to imagine.

John H. D. Watson said...

That's...god. Bad, yeah.

Kind of you to stay and talk to them. I hope it helped a little at least, as much as anything can right now.

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

Probably helped me more than them. They were incredibly dignified though, and polite.

On the way hone now. Anything you want? I've got a bit of work to do when I get in. Think degus will eat my homework if I ask them nicely?

John H. D. Watson said...

We don't need anything, just you.

I think the degus will eat nearly anything, whether you ask them to or not...

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

Speaking of - A from NW, I think you asked if degu bites are like cat or dog bites? Or something - can't find it, sorry. And I have no idea, apart from being smaller...why did you ask?

Sherlock is determinedly trying to teach them their names. I have Mercury on the table with me, he has Argon. I've been good off for calling her Merc.

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

Told off... not good.

REReader said...

Yeah, I can see that Sherlock would not be in favor of nicknames.

(Not to mention that I know nothing about degu brains, but I can see that it might confuse her.)

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

Yeah, he objects to me potentially derailing his careful teaching.

Now if only we could train him to be attentive when we call him... probably take more than a few oats, though...

REReader said...

Ha!

OTOH, I bet you got some big hugs when you got home, even without oats.

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

I got a slightly distracted offer that I could carry him (and the goos) back upstairs...

But it's good he's taking such an interest in them. I can't complain. John did more of the hugging. And Mycroft's sorting my phone out.

REReader said...

Hehe. Okay, that's funny.

And the hugs and phone-fixing brigade are excellent.

Anonymous said...

Greg - Yes, that was me, asking if degu bites are like other pet inflicted-injuries. I ask because cat and dog bites (I have been told) are bacteria-loaded injuries that rate a doctor's visit and antibotics, and I was wondering if degu bites are on par with that. Of course, John is a doctor, so you should be totally fine...

I hope Sherlock and Mycroft are keeping you highly entertained, and that John is able to keep on cuddling you tonight (in between chasing down degus).

~A from NW

PS Mycroft, you're a fantastic person for putting autocorrect in its place.

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

I've no idea, A. Worst bites I've ever got, infection-wise, (and damage-wise) have been human. Doc?

To be honest, I'd really rather everyone just carried on as normal, like Sherlock is. I hate my job or mood dragging them down.

REReader said...

Silly man, it has nothing to do with dragging them down--it's about offering support and love when you're a bit (or a lot) down, just as you do for them. That's family.

John H. D. Watson said...

If the bite's very deep, or if you have reason to believe the animal is diseased, maybe, but this was really very minor.

Heh. Sherlock is very, very good at carrying on as normal, isn't he?

Anonymous said...

What RR says is right. Family is there for each other because they choose to be. Besides, John is there to share both the good times and not-so-good times with you. Burdens shared are burdens halved.

~A from NW

Desert Wanderer said...

A from NW, I know in the States there's concern especially about rabies, which isn't anywhere in Great Britain (i don't know about the whole UK or not). Where is NW if you don't mind saying?

Anonymous said...

DW - I'm in the north-western portion of the States. (Please don't lurk outside my door and freeze to death! Just knock!)

From what I've heard though, it's not about rabies. It's just the natural baterica in the mouths of cats and dogs that...aren't so people-friendly.

(I've known a circle of cat owners for several years now, and they had this discussion around bites a few times. I am, however, not a pet owner.) =)

~A from NW

REReader said...

A from NW--I always heard it the other way around--that human bites were more bacteria-laden than animal bites, assuming that the animal doesn't have rabies or is poisonous.

(Hmm...googling for a reputable source. .... Ah! American Society for Surgery of the Hand: Human bites have lots of bacteria, but some animal bites--like cat bites--can be a lot deeper than they seem and thus cause infections.)

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

Like I said, worse ones I've ever had are from people. But then I've not been bitten by any cats or many dogs...

And about 'dragging them down' I just mean...I don't know. I don't want the boys to feel they have to tiptoe around me or anything. John's a bit different, I know he'll help me out, support me, talk things over. It's not fair on the boys to expect that from them, although obviously very nice when they do kind things, like hugs, or sorting out phones, or anything, really.

Piplover said...

I used to have rats as pets and every now and then one of them would mistake my finger for food when I was feeding them treats. They have some long teeth! Usually if you wash the bite and put some antibacterial on it, you're good to go. It's just one of those things when you own a little critter.

REReader said...

L, I'm pretty sure neither Mycroft nor Sherlock feel you ask for too much from them or expect them to tiptoe around you or anything like that, because you flat out don't do any such thing. It's not as though you're sharing the details with them, or otherwise expecting adult-level support from them--as you say, you save that, properly, for John. Which is not to say they don't want to be there for you (or John, or each other), in their own, age appropriate, ways. And it's definitely good for them to have emotionally honest role-models.

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

Piplover - yeah, the Doc sorted me out, once I'd detached the goo. She was just miffed at me not paying her enough attention :) (John's just the same...)

John H. D. Watson said...

I seldom bite when denied celery though.

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

I've never tried to deny you celery... Don't try to deny you much, really ;)

John H. D. Watson said...

You are very good to me, it's true. I probably wouldn't bite you even on being denied tea.

REReader said...

"Probably" duly noted... :D

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

I won't test that, Danger.

I don't want to go to work tomorrow. I want to stay with you three and have fun.

John H. D. Watson said...

I'll write you a note. Let's go to the beach.

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

I fear they'd quite quickly find this and use it as evidence against me. Lovely as it sounds.

Rider said...

I've been reading this blog too long. My first thought on seeing "denied celery" was "Lestrade would never deny you his stalk!"

John H. D. Watson said...

L - damn, foiled again...

Rider - ha! Not on a long term basis at least, I hope!

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

It's him you've got to mind, Rider, with his fleshy succulent.

REReader said...

*snort giggle*

Shabbat shalom, everyone!

Have a nice, peaceful day at work, L, and as nice a day as possible, John, Mycroft, and Sherlock!

Anon Without A Name said...

Late to the party - but I hope your evening has made up for your day, Lestrade.

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

Party never ends around here, Nameless. And thanks.

Doing far better than I used to, with these three to come home to. John's just checking my pouch for stray degu (that's our story and we're sticking to it.)

John H. D. Watson said...

It's a good story. Has the all important dash of truth to make it believable.

Desert Wanderer said...

Glad to hear it, Lestrade. Coming home late to an empty place is no good. :)

Pouch hunting, eh? Say no more, say no more.

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

DW - empty place or place with someone you don't want to see. This is lovely, though, sprawling on the sofa.

Anon Without A Name said...

Lestrade - glad to hear it :-)

John - uh huh. You keep telling yourself that :-p

I presume the Goos are actually tucked up sleeping in their cage while you too have a nice cuddle and a grope?

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

Think the goos were asleep before Sherlock was! Although they sort of bury themselves in the bedding, so hard to see.

And my hands are where everyone can see them. It's the Doc with his hands in someone else's clothing. ;)

John H. D. Watson said...

It's not my fault your clothing's so warm inside.

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

well, it is partly your fault. It's your warm little hands in there. I should turn around, you can cuddle my feet instead. They might be warm when we go to bed that way.

John H. D. Watson said...

Won't work, your feet don't have a pouch.

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

I could just stick them up your jumper. You probably deserve it, for years of gratuitously sticking freezing cold stethoscopes on unsuspecting patients. (do they treat you how to keep your stethoscope at -30 in medical school? Issue you with special cold packs?)

John H. D. Watson said...

Cold packs are so 19th century. They have internal micro-cooling units now.

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

Ha, of course you do.

And how did it get that late??

John H. D. Watson said...

No idea. I suppose this means we have to move...

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

Or sleep here.

And I haven't got half my risk assessments done.

You three might have to come and feed me lunch tomorrow.

Desert Wanderer said...

Doc seems to be an expert at getting you to sleep on his soft furnishing, Lestrade. <3

John H. D. Watson said...

One of my many talents.

Desert Wanderer said...

Don't forget to add "Lestallion-wrangler" to your business card, Doc. You're not still on the couch, though, are you?

John H. D. Watson said...

No indeed. I've successfully installed him in bed, and he's even asleep. I am an expert Lestallion wrangler.

Desert Wanderer said...

Well done you, then. Now to enjoy the fruits of your labours? :D

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

Don't give him a big head

And Who are you calling a fruit?

Desert Wanderer said...

Don't give him a big head

I would never dream of that. That's your job.

Fruits. Like, you know, berries. ;)

Posting on your blog didn't make your phone wake you up did it?

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

No, I turn email alerts off at night. Other things entirely keeping me awake. And after Danger did such a good job, too.

Desert Wanderer said...

Sorry to hear that. Anything worth talking about?

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

No, I'll be okay. Thanks though, you're very kind. Even if I can't sleep, only three hours before I get up for work. Can always get up and do my paperwork!

Desert Wanderer said...

Paperwork might put you to sleep, yes. I'd think the easier (and better) solution would be to snuggle with Doc.


...there aren't any markers in your bedroom right now, are there?

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

Markers are in my bag, in the sitting room. I could have Danger covered head to toe by morning...

But I won't. And yeah, its better to stay here and try and sleep, definitely.

Bronwyn said...

Just write "I love you" on his belly for home to find later. It's weird but, I find, often well-received.
Sleep well, Greg.
Bronwyn

KHolly said...

Bronwyn, so do you write that upside down so that he can look down and see it, or backwards so he can look in the mirror and see it?

Bronwyn said...

Kholly - it depends on placement. Upside down on the lower abdomen as that's easily seen when you look down. Backwards if it's higher up. Though, since John doesn't have breasts to block his view, it's probably a non-issue.

Bronwyn

Anonymous said...

Bronwyn, I...

*is laughing too hard to come up wtih a coherent comment*

~A from NW

Desert Wanderer said...

Wow, Bronwyn. Just...wow. :D

Desert Wanderer said...

How's it goin', Lestrade?

Greg 'Orio' M F Lestrade said...

Slowly... any slower and someone will find me asleep, face down on my desk.

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